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What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

Re: What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

Postby Saint » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:38 pm

John Adams and George Washington are calling you a liar. :lol:
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Re: What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

Postby Quicksilver » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:14 pm

American views of Islam were influenced by favorable Enlightenment writings from Europe, as well as Europeans who had long warned that Islam was a threat to Christianity and republicanism.[15]}}}}The ones who did not read deeply enough or glossed over the two hundred passages of killing non-moslems, or were influenced by moslems practicing the taqqiya art of deception, were fooled by what they thought islam to be. Many, like Madison, knew better.{{{


Between 1785 and 1815, over a hundred American sailors were captive in Algiers for ransom. Several wrote captivity narratives of their experiences that gave most Americans their first view of the Middle East and Muslim ways, and newspapers often commented on them. The views were generally negative. Finally Presidents Jefferson and Madison sent in the Navy to confront the pirates, and ended the threat in 1815.[19][20][21]}}}the imams had declared a holy war against the new US{{{
Sapela Island;
Sapelo Island is speculated to be the site of San Miguel de Gualdape, the short-lived first European settlement in present-day U.S.

During the 17th century Sapelo Island was part of the Guale missionary province of Spanish Florida. After 1680, several missions were merged and relocated to the island under the mission Santa Catalina de Guale.

In the early 19th century Thomas Spalding, a future Georgia Senator and U.S. Representative, bought the island and developed it into a plantation, selling live oak for shipbuilding, introduced irrigation ditches, and cultivated Sea Island Cotton, corn, and sugar cane. Spalding brought 400 slaves to the island from West Africa and the West Indies to work the plantation and build what would become the Spalding Mansion.[2]

In 1820, a Winslow Lewis brick lighthouse was built on the island. Although it remained dark for over ninety years, it was rebuilt and relit in 1998.[7]

Spalding opposed the abolishment of slavery and died in 1851 on his way back from a convention to assert Georgia's position on the matter. When freed, the former slaves established several settlements on the island; the last remaining is Hog Hammock with approximately seventy remaining land owners.[2] During the Civil War, the Spalding home was vandalized heavily and lay in ruins.

By the early 20th century the International Road Races were attracting notables from the motor world to Savannah. One attendee was Howard E. Coffin, founder of the Hudson Motor Company in Detroit. Coffin purchased all of the island, save for the land owned by the former slaves, for $150,000 in 1912.[2] Like Spalding, the Coffins embarked on numerous projects. Miles of shell-covered roads were laid, creeks were bridged, old fields were cultivated and large tracts were set aside for cattle grazing. The Coffins also renovated and enlarged the Spalding house, creating an island paradise unsurpassed on the coast. Former presidents Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover as well as aviator Charles Lindbergh were guests in the home.[2] R. J. Reynolds, Jr., of R. J. Reynolds Tobacco, bought Sapelo during the Great Depression in 1933 and continued the tradition of agricultural experimentation of the previous owners. Reynolds and his family used the island as a part-time residence for three decades, consolidating the island's African-American residents into Hog Hammock and establishing the basis for the university research facilities.[2] In 1965, Reynolds' widow sold their stake to the state of Georgia, and the mansion takes its name from its final private owner. }Note-NO reference to any mohameddans{

In 1776, John Adams published "Thoughts on Government," in which he praises the Islamic prophet Muhammad as a "sober inquirer after truth" alongside Confucius, Zoroaster, Socrates, and other thinkers.}}He was fooled, at the time{{{
In 1785, George Washington stated a willingness to hire "Mahometans," as well as people of any nation or religion, to work on his private estate at Mount Vernon if they were "good workmen." It was a rhetorical statement, as he hired no such people.[24]}}He was also fooled at the time{{{



Jefferson }}was also fooled for a while by mohammedanism's claim to being a 'religion of peace', he found out the hard way that it was the opposite{{{

Madison, the chief author of the US Constitution was wise to them. In his Papers on the Making of the Constitution" he said "the First Amendment's Freedom of religion was not meant to include mohammedanism or other Eastern religions".
Putting in a list of Arab Americans without actual dates or religious affiliation is worthless.
You had better read the links in the post in religions "The White Roses".
Having lived 62 years of history, my first memory of an moslems in America was the Black Muslims and Cassius Clay conning the draft board and changing his name in the late 1960s.
They were not in history books except as enemies from the time of the moslem Barbary Pirates War. The record you gave of the island is not there, as you can see above.
Eventually, Adams, Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin saw the truth of what islam really was---a kill cult. It is very dangerous to believe their "Taqqiya", and believe their lies.
>>>>The White roses post will be very educational to you.<<< They ARE evil :angryfire:

Personally, I am a Deist ("Involved") similar to Jefferson. All organized religions have various made up qualities (most especially islam and mormons), and rigamarole rites. Some had kernels of wisdom, unfollowed, like "Replenish the Earth" and the Utes' Rule of Life "Think Seven Generations ahead of the consequences of your actions or decisions first."
This has led to the present overpopulation, depletion of resources, and pollution far beyond the biosphere's absorption rate, AGW to self release of tundra then oceanic methane hydrate deposits and a greater than PETM warming ten times faster=ELE. The moslems are among the worst overbreeders on this planet in extreme peril.
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Re: What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

Postby Saint » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:51 pm

OK, I get it...you HATE Islam. I'll even agree with you there, I'm not a fan of it much myself. But I'm rational enough to understand that this is a free country and that some of my fellow Americans, who are just as patriotic as I am, are Islamic.

I might hate the religion, but I NEVER hate my fellow Americans.
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Re: What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

Postby Quicksilver » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:52 am

The question is: Are they really "fellow Americans"???
Not if they are fully practicing their cult.
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/10/t ... ption.html

I wouldn't turn my back on them. I could never fully trust them to be "good Americans" first.
It was a mistake of the 1965 Immigration Act to let them in, and for much of government, the media, and the public to fall for their deceptions and the "religion of peace" BS from Cassius Clay and others. According to the Iranian Amil Amani(and others), islam fills all the definitions of a cult and not a religion. Thus it is NOT part of the First Amendment freedom of religion. Madison knew, and others found out.
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Re: What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

Postby Saint » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:17 pm

OK... I give. But here's something to think about: Just because they seem dangerous to yo now doesn't mean they'll always be that way. REsident americans hated the Irish when they arrived, and they even hated my own people, the swedes, when we arrived. But we turned out ok, didn't we? let's check back in 2100 and see if things are still the same. :bigsmile:
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Re: What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

Postby Quicksilver » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:37 pm

Probably the overbreeding moslems are most dangerous ecologically. I wonder if this guy is a "Good Republican"? Certainly another NPG member;
"What if there was a total moratorium, ruthlessly enforced, on having ANY kids for the longest time possible without causing extinction? That would be say, 30 years. At the present death rate of 60 million per year, and if it was somehow done instantaneously, then the population in 2039 would be down to 5 Billion. With all the effects of depletion and pollution on food production for that time, it would yield around 1,200 calories per person per day, if distributed evenly. People would have to be at a maximum weight of 100 pounds to do enough work to feed themselves at 400 calories per day expended above the sedentary starvation level for someone of 100 pounds weight. If those old enough to breed kept the population at that level of near starvation as the sustainable level continued to decline from further depletion and pollution effects, then the population would decline further to a final state of sustainability where depletion equals replenishment of soils, and water, and pollution is at absorption rate. The world population would be around a billion, and would have avoided the holocaust of the population crash, and extinction if human habits had also changed toward sustainability.
It is a mighty big what if, and knowing human psychology and inertia, just will not happen. The population drop off will be the natural result of depleting and polluting the habitat. Human life expectancy will peak and fall, as food production ability also falls, and too many people causes falling incomes and increased prices to world depression. Pollution effects will continue to increase, and they are nasty.
The people that have had more than 2 kids since the world reached maximum sustainable at the lowest reasonable standard of living, the late 1920s, have caused what will happen. Of course, no one knew until the late 1960s, and now, you can see the impossible situation our species is in. There is no way to stop the Juggernaut.
What CAN be done is to mitigate the destruction of the biosphere to prevent extinction of the survivors. Minimize pollution of all kinds, maximize soil building with true composting increase, reduce pure water usage through efficiency and recycling, and reduce family size to decrease depletion and pollution, and lessen the impact of the crash. Certain areas can be "niched" to being totally independent for energy and complete nutrition, while others who use up everything will turn their lands to unusable wastelands. Global pollution will still affect even these "niched" areas----mercury, malevolent climate change, and other atmospheric and seaborne toxics---for many thousands of years. The more people of now and until the mid century crash, the less survivors and survivability of the species, along with many other species, many of which we need in our ecological support system.
Reduce, Re-use, and recycle are still good words to live by, and teach. What is really more important; personal selfishness, greed, and ignorance, or future generations of yet unborn people? What is more important, you, or the human species? Soldiers fight for their country, while true environmentalists fight for those future unborn people. Both make personal sacrifices, while the selfish, greedy, or ignorant do not. Environmentalists can help teach the ignorant, and show the selfish and greedy the errors of their ways. It is frustrating because the ignorant are very hard to teach, and the selfish and greedy resist strongly in changing their ways, with every rationalization possible, every form of deceit possible, and with the power their money can buy.
Still, reduce, re-use, and recycle--live it, and teach it. Rest when needed, and know you are doing what is truly right and good."
A great post, anyway. In 200 years there will be no USA. Ecocide is in progress. :crybaby2: :guitar1: :shock:
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Re: What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

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Re: What You Must Believe to Be a Good Republican...

Postby foxglovepress » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:44 pm

Justice for Mark....ship the illegals out!
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